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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-396</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, you can control yourself.  Women are naturally frigid and hate sex.  Or is it they are lusty, nymphomaniacs that steal men&#039;s souls through their dick?  Crap, I can&#039;t remember which one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, you can control yourself.  Women are naturally frigid and hate sex.  Or is it they are lusty, nymphomaniacs that steal men&#8217;s souls through their dick?  Crap, I can&#8217;t remember which one.</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-395</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not difficult to do! :)

I think there are many people who think this woman&#039;s logic is whacky! Self-control and will power are difficult to master, but that doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t or that we shouldn&#039;t try. I mean, it&#039;s raining man whores all over the state of New Jersey but somehow I manage to control myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not difficult to do! :)</p>
<p>I think there are many people who think this woman&#8217;s logic is whacky! Self-control and will power are difficult to master, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t or that we shouldn&#8217;t try. I mean, it&#8217;s raining man whores all over the state of New Jersey but somehow I manage to control myself.</p>
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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-394</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only did she write &quot;It&#039;s raining whores,&quot; she used it to imply that men are completely helpless to the power of seduction that only women possess.  Please.  It&#039;s my biggest arguement with traditional religions.  How is that article supported by any feminist?  I still can&#039;t wrap my mind around the thought that women in the &quot;First World&quot; are helpless and that taking responsibility for our actions and reactions is the same thing as taking the blame for the situation.  Lord.  Should we start our own group?
Hey, look!  We found common ground again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did she write &#8220;It&#8217;s raining whores,&#8221; she used it to imply that men are completely helpless to the power of seduction that only women possess.  Please.  It&#8217;s my biggest arguement with traditional religions.  How is that article supported by any feminist?  I still can&#8217;t wrap my mind around the thought that women in the &#8220;First World&#8221; are helpless and that taking responsibility for our actions and reactions is the same thing as taking the blame for the situation.  Lord.  Should we start our own group?<br />
Hey, look!  We found common ground again.</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-392</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Everyone is responsible for his or her own actions.&quot; Totally! :)

I just can&#039;t believe that any woman would write that it&#039;s &quot;raining whores.&quot; I have to say that I laughed out loud when I read that. I found the article on Feministe this morning. I&#039;m banned from commenting there because women can be, as you say, &quot;catty, manipulative and judgmental.&quot; They don&#039;t like my belief that women in the &quot;First World&quot; have power and that we should &lt;i&gt;take action&lt;/i&gt; with it. I used the term &quot;take responsibility&quot; and they thought that implied blame. That&#039;s why I now refer to that site as &quot;Fasciste.&quot; :D Don&#039;t I sound bitter!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everyone is responsible for his or her own actions.&#8221; Totally! :)</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t believe that any woman would write that it&#8217;s &#8220;raining whores.&#8221; I have to say that I laughed out loud when I read that. I found the article on Feministe this morning. I&#8217;m banned from commenting there because women can be, as you say, &#8220;catty, manipulative and judgmental.&#8221; They don&#8217;t like my belief that women in the &#8220;First World&#8221; have power and that we should <i>take action</i> with it. I used the term &#8220;take responsibility&#8221; and they thought that implied blame. That&#8217;s why I now refer to that site as &#8220;Fasciste.&#8221; :D Don&#8217;t I sound bitter!</p>
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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-391</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not just the moral issues or the pain.  It&#039;s about respect, respecting other women.  Feminism looses ground because women simply don&#039;t respect each other.  We can become catty, manipulative, and judgemental.  How can we change the world if we are constantly attacking our compatriats?  Women who have affairs with men in relationships don&#039;t respect the other women, putting all women on constant vigilence against each other.  Why should we compete with one another, be on the guard with one another?  

As for that article, it&#039;s just another in a long line of opinions that blame women for the actions of men.  Wives have to be taught techniques to keep their husbands satisfied and from straying.  Other women are just a bunch of whore throwing themselves at married men.  Ugh.  What about the men?  Don&#039;t they bare some responsibility to keep their dicks in their pants?  The arguement that women have set the sexual boundries in the past is just as crazy because what power did a woman have in the 1950&#039;s to deal with a cheating husband?  What could a woman do with a cheating husband in the Victorian ages?  Every one is responsible for his or her own actions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just the moral issues or the pain.  It&#8217;s about respect, respecting other women.  Feminism looses ground because women simply don&#8217;t respect each other.  We can become catty, manipulative, and judgemental.  How can we change the world if we are constantly attacking our compatriats?  Women who have affairs with men in relationships don&#8217;t respect the other women, putting all women on constant vigilence against each other.  Why should we compete with one another, be on the guard with one another?  </p>
<p>As for that article, it&#8217;s just another in a long line of opinions that blame women for the actions of men.  Wives have to be taught techniques to keep their husbands satisfied and from straying.  Other women are just a bunch of whore throwing themselves at married men.  Ugh.  What about the men?  Don&#8217;t they bare some responsibility to keep their dicks in their pants?  The arguement that women have set the sexual boundries in the past is just as crazy because what power did a woman have in the 1950&#8242;s to deal with a cheating husband?  What could a woman do with a cheating husband in the Victorian ages?  Every one is responsible for his or her own actions.</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-390</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.momlogic.com/2010/02/tiger_woods_is_a_role_model.php?adid=hot_topics

This author believes we can&#039;t blame the men who cheat because &quot;IT&#039;S RAINING WHORES!&quot;]]></description>
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<p>This author believes we can&#8217;t blame the men who cheat because &#8220;IT&#8217;S RAINING WHORES!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-389</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. This discussion is AWESOME! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. This discussion is AWESOME! :)</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-388</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay. So your feminism would have a rule that feminists don&#039;t intentionally harm other women? That would be ideal in my book too. But none of Tiger&#039;s or Dave&#039;s mistresses are known to be feminists, are they? If they&#039;re not playing by the &quot;rules of feminism,&quot; then that means they either 1) aren&#039;t accountable by your rule or 2) your rule has nothing to do with feminism and just applies to all women, feminists or otherwise. Either way, feminism doesn&#039;t play a part unless a declared feminist is harming another woman. Right? 

It&#039;s &lt;b&gt;wrong&lt;/b&gt; to cheat because people get hurt. That&#039;s the moral argument. But some say it&#039;s &lt;b&gt;wrong&lt;/b&gt; to have an abortion because a fetus gets hurt. Where can we draw the line when using moral arguments like these?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. So your feminism would have a rule that feminists don&#8217;t intentionally harm other women? That would be ideal in my book too. But none of Tiger&#8217;s or Dave&#8217;s mistresses are known to be feminists, are they? If they&#8217;re not playing by the &#8220;rules of feminism,&#8221; then that means they either 1) aren&#8217;t accountable by your rule or 2) your rule has nothing to do with feminism and just applies to all women, feminists or otherwise. Either way, feminism doesn&#8217;t play a part unless a declared feminist is harming another woman. Right? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s <b>wrong</b> to cheat because people get hurt. That&#8217;s the moral argument. But some say it&#8217;s <b>wrong</b> to have an abortion because a fetus gets hurt. Where can we draw the line when using moral arguments like these?</p>
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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-385</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hold men respsonsible for their actions just as I hold women.  Men shouldn&#039;t cheat because they took vows to their spouses.  It&#039;s a legal contract just as much as it is a social, personal, and emotional commitment. 

You&#039;re right.  We don&#039;t know what is between Letterman and his wife or Woods and his wife.  What we do know is both men apologized to their wives for hurting them, and so it&#039;s safe to assume that they do not have an open relationship.

While I may believe it is morally wrong to cheat, I meant that as a feminist, one shouldn&#039;t be knowingly causing harm to another woman.  We should be looking out for our sisters and helping them out.  We shouldn&#039;t be competing over the same man, just like we shouldn&#039;t be encouraging each other to do harmful things to our bodies.  We shouldn&#039;t allow others to turn us into enemies.  We are the fashion police, and I believe that feminists will never achieve their ideal world until we realize that we must do it without expending our sisters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hold men respsonsible for their actions just as I hold women.  Men shouldn&#8217;t cheat because they took vows to their spouses.  It&#8217;s a legal contract just as much as it is a social, personal, and emotional commitment. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  We don&#8217;t know what is between Letterman and his wife or Woods and his wife.  What we do know is both men apologized to their wives for hurting them, and so it&#8217;s safe to assume that they do not have an open relationship.</p>
<p>While I may believe it is morally wrong to cheat, I meant that as a feminist, one shouldn&#8217;t be knowingly causing harm to another woman.  We should be looking out for our sisters and helping them out.  We shouldn&#8217;t be competing over the same man, just like we shouldn&#8217;t be encouraging each other to do harmful things to our bodies.  We shouldn&#8217;t allow others to turn us into enemies.  We are the fashion police, and I believe that feminists will never achieve their ideal world until we realize that we must do it without expending our sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2010/02/12/oprah-how-could-you/#comment-384</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see your point in endorsing the Letterman show.  

It&#039;s frustrating to see a &quot;man&#039;s world&quot; from the outside and want to change it, but when those working in it don&#039;t complain then maybe I&#039;m just an outsider that doesn&#039;t know anything.  I don&#039;t think Letterman should get a pass for what he has done at all, but it&#039;s hard to come to the aid of a staffer who took this long to say it was a hostile work enviroment.  If the affair had never come to light, would she keep her silence?  Is she saying it now to protect herself from judgement of other people, professionally and socially?  

Like I said, without whistle blowers, we can do nothing but assume.  And you know what assuming does to you.  (Of course I just thought of a whole lot of scenerios to blast my point to pieces.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point in endorsing the Letterman show.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s frustrating to see a &#8220;man&#8217;s world&#8221; from the outside and want to change it, but when those working in it don&#8217;t complain then maybe I&#8217;m just an outsider that doesn&#8217;t know anything.  I don&#8217;t think Letterman should get a pass for what he has done at all, but it&#8217;s hard to come to the aid of a staffer who took this long to say it was a hostile work enviroment.  If the affair had never come to light, would she keep her silence?  Is she saying it now to protect herself from judgement of other people, professionally and socially?  </p>
<p>Like I said, without whistle blowers, we can do nothing but assume.  And you know what assuming does to you.  (Of course I just thought of a whole lot of scenerios to blast my point to pieces.)</p>
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