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		<title>By: My wonderful/lazy/thoughtful/crazy husband &#171; The Fem Spot</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My wonderful/lazy/thoughtful/crazy husband &#171; The Fem Spot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] like other men. We are therefore not feminine and masculine respectively, but have switched roles. (For clarification, the book is about relations between the sexes and not the genders because the author is claiming [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like other men. We are therefore not feminine and masculine respectively, but have switched roles. (For clarification, the book is about relations between the sexes and not the genders because the author is claiming [...]</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-371</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, April! This thing I do - holding women accountable - has been a controversy on other blogs. And you&#039;re right that the responsibility factor is in the now. We NOW have power and need to use it. 

Some people say that gender is entirely a male construct...I don&#039;t know if I agree or disagree, or even fully comprehend that, but I do think that both sexes need to be comfortable with natural emotions and displays of such emotions and sexualities and displays of both through dress and demeanor, etc. 

I second the need to educate and not be ashamed! And we also need to not fear disagreeing with each other once we do educate ourselves and form opinions. Out of some disagreements can arise a call to action, which is the necessary next step after education and discussion. Thanks for this comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, April! This thing I do &#8211; holding women accountable &#8211; has been a controversy on other blogs. And you&#8217;re right that the responsibility factor is in the now. We NOW have power and need to use it. </p>
<p>Some people say that gender is entirely a male construct&#8230;I don&#8217;t know if I agree or disagree, or even fully comprehend that, but I do think that both sexes need to be comfortable with natural emotions and displays of such emotions and sexualities and displays of both through dress and demeanor, etc. </p>
<p>I second the need to educate and not be ashamed! And we also need to not fear disagreeing with each other once we do educate ourselves and form opinions. Out of some disagreements can arise a call to action, which is the necessary next step after education and discussion. Thanks for this comment!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[April]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a &lt;i&gt;great&lt;/i&gt; post!  

&lt;blockquote&gt;(I’d like to point out here as an aside that, after rereading some of my older posts, I find it interesting that I used to write these essays for people who were unaware of a feminist perspective on choice issues; but now, after spending time with some radical feminists, I find myself writing these essays with them in mind,&lt;i&gt; defending my “lesser” feminism that holds women partially responsible for our decreasingly subordinate position.&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.  The way I see it is that, while I wouldn&#039;t agree a couple decades ago, enough time has passed since monumental achievements in women&#039;s liberation that, while we may not be done, we have an increasing personal responsibility to not only make sure we do all we can to rise from a subordinate position, but also to avoid dumbing ourselves down and policing &quot;gender&quot; on others, as well.  We (the collective we) need to educate ourselves and not be ashamed of that education.  I&#039;m pretty obsessive about this particular issue...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a <i>great</i> post!  </p>
<blockquote><p>(I’d like to point out here as an aside that, after rereading some of my older posts, I find it interesting that I used to write these essays for people who were unaware of a feminist perspective on choice issues; but now, after spending time with some radical feminists, I find myself writing these essays with them in mind,<i> defending my “lesser” feminism that holds women partially responsible for our decreasingly subordinate position.</i>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.  The way I see it is that, while I wouldn&#8217;t agree a couple decades ago, enough time has passed since monumental achievements in women&#8217;s liberation that, while we may not be done, we have an increasing personal responsibility to not only make sure we do all we can to rise from a subordinate position, but also to avoid dumbing ourselves down and policing &#8220;gender&#8221; on others, as well.  We (the collective we) need to educate ourselves and not be ashamed of that education.  I&#8217;m pretty obsessive about this particular issue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-301</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always had a major crush on David Bowie. Why can&#039;t more men dress like Ziggy Stardust and wear cool make-up? They are afraid of the social intolerance. They are afraid it will alienate women. Women won&#039;t know they&#039;re out for hetero relations and other men will tease them, they worry. I think it&#039;s great that more and more teens are forcing the issue on this! It means they&#039;re one generation closer to the annihilation of gender expectations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always had a major crush on David Bowie. Why can&#8217;t more men dress like Ziggy Stardust and wear cool make-up? They are afraid of the social intolerance. They are afraid it will alienate women. Women won&#8217;t know they&#8217;re out for hetero relations and other men will tease them, they worry. I think it&#8217;s great that more and more teens are forcing the issue on this! It means they&#8217;re one generation closer to the annihilation of gender expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: faemom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[faemom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give me a sec, I&#039;m a little blown away that my hometown being progressive.  
Ok.  The funny thing is when it comes to gender-bending dressing, it&#039;s the men (or teenage boys) most comfortable in their sexuality that did it.  I spent my teenage years surrounded by drama boys, who weren&#039;t afraid to cross-dress, wear tights or kilts to school.  And yet, all these boys had girlfriends and were quite typical boys, checking out girls, making those sexual jokes amongst themselves, rooting for their favorite sports teams.  I worry about what gender typing does to people, especially to boys.  Years ago, boys weren&#039;t suppose to know how to cook and girls weren&#039;t suppose to fix cars.  And yet, if you know how to do both well, you can save yourself a lot of money and time.  Now I know more men who can cook but can&#039;t fix a car.  Gender is fluid.  But the problem it can create a lot of pain for people who don&#039;t feel they fit their gender.  That is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a sec, I&#8217;m a little blown away that my hometown being progressive.<br />
Ok.  The funny thing is when it comes to gender-bending dressing, it&#8217;s the men (or teenage boys) most comfortable in their sexuality that did it.  I spent my teenage years surrounded by drama boys, who weren&#8217;t afraid to cross-dress, wear tights or kilts to school.  And yet, all these boys had girlfriends and were quite typical boys, checking out girls, making those sexual jokes amongst themselves, rooting for their favorite sports teams.  I worry about what gender typing does to people, especially to boys.  Years ago, boys weren&#8217;t suppose to know how to cook and girls weren&#8217;t suppose to fix cars.  And yet, if you know how to do both well, you can save yourself a lot of money and time.  Now I know more men who can cook but can&#8217;t fix a car.  Gender is fluid.  But the problem it can create a lot of pain for people who don&#8217;t feel they fit their gender.  That is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-299</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember once when I went fabric shopping with my grandmother, your namesake, being amused when she commented on what a gay piece of fabric such and such was.  She was thoroughly disgusted when I told her what the &quot;new&quot; definition meant!  It&#039;s all about the times isn&#039;t it?  Linguists will tell you that languages that can&#039;t be responsive to changing times don&#039;t survive....Latin?  Now that opens up a whole other subject, doesn&#039;t it?  the Church!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember once when I went fabric shopping with my grandmother, your namesake, being amused when she commented on what a gay piece of fabric such and such was.  She was thoroughly disgusted when I told her what the &#8220;new&#8221; definition meant!  It&#8217;s all about the times isn&#8217;t it?  Linguists will tell you that languages that can&#8217;t be responsive to changing times don&#8217;t survive&#8230;.Latin?  Now that opens up a whole other subject, doesn&#8217;t it?  the Church!</p>
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		<title>By: femspotter</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[femspotter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Mom! &quot;Gender&quot; is everywhere &quot;sex&quot; used to be: on applications for loans, school, credit cards, etc. Even my PhD. application form for Yale asked me for my gender. I toyed with the idea of telling Yale that I am a masculine female, but I didn&#039;t. It&#039;s just inaccurate, that&#039;s all. But words change: gay used to mean happy, didn&#039;t it? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mom! &#8220;Gender&#8221; is everywhere &#8220;sex&#8221; used to be: on applications for loans, school, credit cards, etc. Even my PhD. application form for Yale asked me for my gender. I toyed with the idea of telling Yale that I am a masculine female, but I didn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s just inaccurate, that&#8217;s all. But words change: gay used to mean happy, didn&#8217;t it? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
		<link>http://thefemspot.com/2009/11/21/why-gender-has-to-go/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great post!  Thanks for providing clarification of these often confusing terms.  I admit to having been confused about them for a long time.
There is much thought and discussion provoking material here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post!  Thanks for providing clarification of these often confusing terms.  I admit to having been confused about them for a long time.<br />
There is much thought and discussion provoking material here.</p>
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